Pacquiao-Mayweather Negotiations Metaphor for Fight Itself

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The Mayweather verses Pacquiao saga continues. Word out of Vegas and Los Angeles is that Floyd Mayweather is personally stalling the negotiations. While Money May is tweeting like he is interested in the fight, his behind-the-scenes actions suggest otherwise. And as it turns out, if one wants to see what will happen in the fight itself, one might look to current Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiations for a working metaphor.

ESPN is reporting that the Pacquiao camp is doing all it can to secure the fight, but is not getting anywhere with Mayweather. While Freddie Roach is keen to make the fight, and has been optimistic of late, that optimism appears to be crumbling. Roach has indicated that the negotiations have again hit bizarre roadblocks as Mayweather is making unreasonable demands like Arum not taking part and a few others that suggest that he is digging for excuses. The Abu Dhabi offer is still on the table, and with MGM Grand apparently Mayweather’s choice for venue, there is building tension. With so much money on the table, patience even within the Mayweather camp is growing thin.

It is clear that something is going on with Mayweather. Rarely with this kind of money on the table do negotiations drag on year-after-year like this. While boxing as a business is rough and tumble, eventually money wins out and principals find a way forward. This particular fight, however, is anything but normal. There are so many vested interests in this one that streamlining the negotiations has been difficult. With Les Moonves admitting that he is, indeed, in contact with the Mayweather camp trying to prod the way forward, it has become clear that Mayweather himself is stalling.

For many insiders, while refusing to go public, there is the fear that Mayweather is just plain nervous about the matchup. Both Floyd Sr. and Jr. are on record discussing the inherent health risks associated with fighting Pacquiao. Money May recently admitted that he has no problem being called a coward because, as he bragged, he is a “rich coward.” Prevailing wisdom is that this fight would have been made if not for one thing, Mayweather’s reluctance to fight Pacquiao.

Boxing purist’s point to the matchup of styles that make this a particularly problematic fight for Mayweather. As it turns out, the way the Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiations are devolving may be a metaphor for how Mayweather himself sees the fight itself actually playing out. Mayweather struggles with lefties. While he has a good jab, he rarely uses it to start an engagement, preferring to pick his shots through pot-shotting. His offense is a construct of his defensive scheme, that is, the shoulder roll. As Scoop Malinowski suggests, Mayweather will be at a distinct disadvantage against Pacquiao in light of the fact that his method of defense, including rolling his shoulders is much more efficient against right-handed opponents, particularly ones without an advantage in reach and height.  He went on to say that if “world class lefties”  such as Zab Judah or Demarcus Corley could contend with Mayweather, that Pacquiao and his lefty stance would likely present a significant problem.

As Mayweather has gotten older, this approach is becoming increasingly problematic, especially against a fighter with Pacquiao’s energy and whirlwind activity. In order to pot-shot effectively, fighters need their legs under them, as well as an opponent that is essentially in front and stationary. Pacquiao is not only a lefty, but he moves a lot and gives angles. Additionally, he has mastered the art of throwing punches from surprising angles that have a stunning quality of power. When one couples this with the fact that these punches are sometimes very difficult to see, one can actually sympathize with a nervous Mayweather. One might well ask Ricky Hatton about the punch he did not see.

When Chris Algieri was interviewed in the ring after his demolition at the hands of the Pac-man he said that Pacquiao is the best at being Pacquiao. In other words, try to hit him and one finds air, try to engage him and Pac is somewhere else, try to defend against his punches and one discovers that his punches do not come from orthodox places. They come quickly from the side, from on top and from underneath. These are punches that are nearly impossible to train and prepare for.

In the view of many, current negotiations are a front, with Mayweather as puppet master trying to avoid a fight he personally feels he will struggle in. Like Pac’s unseen punches, expectations and demands are coming at an increasingly cornered Mayweather in fast and furious fashion. Like other fighters who have trained long and hard for their upcoming Pacquiao fights, once Money May gets in the ring, he will realize that there was, after all is said and done, no realistic way to anticipate Pacquiao’s speed, angles, pressure and power.

As it turns out, current Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiations may indeed be a metaphor for the fight itself. In the view of many boxing aficionados, Mayweather may just find himself dumbfounded, flailing away at a moving and unseen target. He may be, in the end, getting surprised by debilitating power shots he could not see coming. Time will tell whether Mayweather is chicken or is just a brilliant negotiator.

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41 Responses to "Pacquiao-Mayweather Negotiations Metaphor for Fight Itself"

  1. Jon   December 29, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Well written article. Doubt Floyd will go for the fight though

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  2. mice cleunone   December 29, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    Another strat in order that floydie would change her mind is, that packie should watch her next fight against whoever not at the ring side but at the bleacher.

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  3. Marcus   December 29, 2014 at 8:19 am

    Accept Mayweathers demands and get him into the right. The only demand I’ve seen outlandish is Bob Arum not being involved. He knows he won’t get that but the fight date, the venues, the money all that should be easy. SIGN the dotted line

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  4. Marcus   December 29, 2014 at 8:16 am

    If Floyd is stalling the fight that means Manny Pacquaio has signed off on the fight…SHOW US A SIGNED CONTRACT…Otherwise I call B.S.!!!

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  5. Luke   December 29, 2014 at 7:50 am

    I really enjoyed reading this. I just wish there was a way to get Floyd in the ring. I think he should be stripped of his belts. I mean in a fighting sport when a man refuses to fight the top contenders, he has no right calling himself a champion.

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  6. novus ordo   December 29, 2014 at 7:37 am

    Looks like this negotiation is going nowhere. It would be much better if the Abu Dhabi investment group offer their money to Pacquiao and Khan. This is a much better fight I believe and everybody do the floydcott. FLOYDCOTT, FLOYDCOTT, FLOYDCOTT.

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  7. Kingfor1000years   December 29, 2014 at 7:29 am

    WOW! like the pic , we know who that is, just put some 100 bills on him

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  8. Prime1   December 29, 2014 at 6:28 am

    FLOYDCOTT! FLOYDCOTT! FLOYDCOTT!!

    Say it long and loud in all the boxing websites on Floyd. Let Showtime know they will lose money if Floyd does not face the Pacman next.

    FLOYDCOTT! FLOYDCOTT! FLOYDCOTT!!
    FLOYDCOTT! FLOYDCOTT! FLOYDCOTT!!
    FLOYDCOTT! FLOYDCOTT! FLOYDCOTT!!

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  9. Rey   December 29, 2014 at 6:20 am

    Finally! people are beginning to see the truth! Great article mr. Mathews! the truth can never be denied!

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  10. DefenceIsKing   December 29, 2014 at 6:04 am

    Mayweather is a defensive counter puncher and probably the best at it. Maquez knock pacman out with a defensive counter punch.

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  11. FawkYouFloyd   December 29, 2014 at 5:34 am

    Fawking big poosy Mayweather Jr! Chicken sh(i)t scared poosy!!! No balls piece of sh(i)t coward poosy!!!!

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  12. Alexis   December 29, 2014 at 4:59 am

    If you put all the unguarded outbursts of Floyd, this article describes exactly the movie running in his mind. Not only is he scared of losing the “0” but his ego will not survive the aftermath. He knows that all the usual demands he squeezed from his past opponents will not be enough to skew the playing field to his favor. Worse, Floyd knows that Pacquiao will gun for a KO because that’s the only way he can win Las Vegas. He is ill-equipped to fight an unorthodox south paw like Pacquiao. Bottom line, Floyd is right about being worried for his health and that he is ok being a rich coward. For once, he told the truth!

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  13. toru   December 29, 2014 at 4:55 am

    This is the stupidest article yet! Pac man fast, powerful throws from all angles, lmbo but have 5 loses.. and haven’t KO no one since forever

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  14. redshogun   December 29, 2014 at 4:34 am

    Mayweather Jr will always find an excuse. At the end of the day if he really wants this fight to prove his the best as he says he is then he would have agreed to this fight ages ago.

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  15. butch f.   December 29, 2014 at 4:20 am

    to may weather-weather lang:

    “kung gusto, may paraan. kung ayaw may( read: maraming) dahilan!”

    this is not some voodoo incantation. translate it for the powder puff boxer please…

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  16. exzur legend   December 29, 2014 at 3:33 am

    Floyd’s future is doomed when their Pacman fight won’t happen simply because fan’s frustration will blame no one but him. His lifetime will be haunted by that ghost… Unless of course losing his own shadow…

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  17. Mice cleu   December 29, 2014 at 1:29 am

    The best strategy in order that floydie would change her mind is, the people behind the p4p ranking should drop Her and put pckie on top.

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  18. Balagtas   December 29, 2014 at 1:05 am

    I agree with Pikkon and Octavio.
    But I still think Mayweather is not dreaming when he said that he will fight Pacquiao.

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  19. [email protected]   December 28, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    nice pic…

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  20. Octavio   December 28, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    2015 is not a good year for Manny vs Floyd fight to happen. The way I see it, after floyd interview saying that he wanted to fight manny on May 2, (I dont know what year), i dont think he mean 2015?

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  21. pikkon   December 28, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    I think it’s Pacquaio’s fault why Floyd doesn’t want to fight him..He KOed Hatton in 2..He destroyed and retired DLH for good…He humiliated a big and true welter Cotto..He rearranged the face of a much bigger fighter Margarito..And lately he KD Algierie six times…Fear of getting hurt by Manny Pacquaio is probably lingering in Floyd’s mind ever since…..Why would he fight Manny Pacquaio while there are easy fights in front of him?…Floyd is a smart coward…

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  22. Gregg p. Bautista   December 28, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Mayweather the boring boxer who scared to Pacquiao…

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  23. Floyd Mayweather Sr. is TBE   December 28, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    Mayweather Jr. without the Pacquiao fight on his resume will leave a big fat question mark on his legacy whether he wants it or not. One can ask the casual boxing fan to the hard core ones and the overwhelming majority of them will nod towards Mayweather Jr.’s seeming reluctance to fight his era’s chief rival. Isn’t he the self-proclaimed “Money”? Isn’t he also the self-titlted TBE – The Best Ever? He gave himself those monikers. Now will he live up to the names?

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  24. Rodolfo Valleser   December 28, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    When Mayweather was bitten by Maidana I thought the squeal came from the round girl being groped by somebody down the ring. When Mayweather will finally face Pacquiao I can imagine squeals of surprises when painful punches hit him until he will instinctively get out of the ring in disbelief, and then Manny shouts at him to get back inside, and he will answer excuses, and then maddened Paquiao gets out of the ring too to get at him; but then Mayweather runs , so Pacquiao chased him until they get out of the stadium and into the streets, Mayweather tried to hail cabs
    , but as soon as the driver saw Pacquiao following him, they wouldn’t stop, Mayweather continued running until he reached the desert of Araby, and when he saw an oasis with tents he tried to seek refuge but the people had already observed them from afar with telescopes, so that when Mayweather arrived the place was empty as everybody had fled on their camels. And from here you can create your end of the movie.

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    • Andrew Bryan A. Mondejar   December 28, 2014 at 10:32 pm

      Haha you’re so funny…

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  25. Raul U.   December 28, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    Mayweather is regarded as the best defensive fighter in the game. He knows perfectly well that to avoid getting hit by Manny is by not getting in the ring with him. No amount of cash can convince the “rich coward” risk his undefeated record. All biases aside, I do agree with him for being rich and being a coward.

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  26. jay   December 28, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    We should never watch Floyd fights again unless it’s Pacquiao. Floyd is a fake.

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  27. AQUARIUS VAL B. VERGEL   December 28, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    Mayweather Jr is a Chicken, meaning a coward!. This must be wrote in the book of History! He is a true meaning of coward, If Mayweather jr, will not fight Pcquiao this year 2015, Without even trying fighting, he is already loss to Pacquiao, Judge by all boxing fans ,

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  28. waycs   December 28, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    Im begging this fight for years and still doesn’t happened, is there anyone who could put this fight into reality? Probably clinton, i know he is a huge fan of boxing.

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  29. sam   December 28, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    Power punches in bunches coming from a southpaw stance will be Floyd’s worst nightmare especially Pacquiao has great footwork and an energy of a Tasmanian devil.

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  30. Porferio Ayos   December 28, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    The best has yet to be determined. Let the two tango. You already knew who is the best dancer but not as a fighter.

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  31. Romeo De Guzman   December 28, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    mayweather’s perceived boxing prowess and defensive brilliance works well with, well, fighters not named pacquiao. As boxers are wont to say, most of your plans and trainings get to be well executed in the gym.. when you get to be hit by an opponent intent to decapitate you, (er.. as pacquiao) all those plans and training go out the window. Ask Clottey, Barrera, Rios, Algerie, etc., etc..

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  32. Lee   December 28, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    we’re all dreaming !!! hahay

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  33. Perry   December 28, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Boxing experts say mayweather jr is the best and will easily defeat Pacquiao.
    I do not believe it and I do not respect him. Let him fight the Pacman to prove it.

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  34. Couguy75   December 28, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    A prayer for Santa ” Dear Santa please let Floyd out of excuses and fight Pacquiao”

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  35. obvious chicken   December 28, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Floyd is not just a chicken, but he is a Running Chicken!

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  36. janrev   December 28, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    so this makes the ‘money man’ the world’s boxing’s number 1…. the world’s #1 chicken!

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    • Florencio ison   December 28, 2014 at 6:12 pm

      I agry number 1 chicken.good on talking but #1 chicken.

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  37. Gillie   December 28, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    So funny, what a chicken May is . Claiming to be no. 1 but a number one coward indeed. What a shame.

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  38. douglas   December 28, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    1000% agree nice article, his diminishing tricks already reach at the end of the rainbow

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  39. Olim   December 28, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    Time has already told us that Money May is a chicken.

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