Was Elisa Lam Murdered by a Ghost?

Elisa LamWas Elisa Lam murdered by a ghost? Many on the internet seem to think so. The latest viral meme on Facebook is the story of a Canadian woman named Elisa Lam, who was found dead on the roof of a hotel inside one of the building’s four water tanks. No one knows how she got there, and the case is being called “eerie” and “a possible case of possession and murder.” Police are stumped as to how this lady could have ended up drowned in a water tank on top of a hotel, say reports.

Central to the rumors and theories is a video of Lam just before she died. She seems to be wrestling with a malfunctioning elevator and acting strangely; as the website Vigilant Citizen puts it: “almost not human.” Lam appears to be peeking in and out of the elevator as if something is following her. The elevator doors look as though they are functioning in a very odd manner. Lam’s death has been ruled an “accidental drowning,” but the internet thinks differently. Story after story has appeared on Facebook along with the video as “proof” that Lam is being chased by someone-or something-and the images of her acting strangely are offered as a smoking gun that certainly, a ghost, evil spirit or demon of some kind is harassing her. Was Elisa Lam murdered by a ghost?

No. Elisa Lam was not murdered by a ghost. In fact, the most interesting thing about this story is that it is a perfect example of how the brain fills in details and looks for “evidence” of what the viewer wants to be true. This phenomenon is also known as “confirmation bias.” According to The Skeptic’s Dictionary, confirmation bias is a scientific, psychological term that “refers to a type of selective thinking whereby one tends to notice and to look for what confirms one’s beliefs, and to ignore, not look for, or undervalue the relevance of what contradicts one’s beliefs.”

That means that when watching the video of Lam in the elevator, the brain of the viewer erases logical explanations for Lam’s behavior and looks for supernatural phenomenon where none exists.

The fact is, Lam’s death and her behavior leading up to her death can be explained by numerous possibilities, all occurring in the natural world. One, for example, is that Lam had a psychotic break with reality, began hallucinating, and committed suicide or drowned by accident.

In fact, this is the most likely scenario. USA Today wrote that the police report ruled Lam’s death accidental, and that it also stated Lam suffered from severe bipolar disorder. Of course, the reports going around the internet conveniently omit Lam’s mental illness, and instead, focus on the fact that no drugs were found in her system and that she was not a known drug user. Again, a perfect example of confirmation bias: omit the information that doesn’t support the hypothesis and focus on information that does.

The police report also states that the water tank in which Lam was found had “unlocked openings.” With regard to confirmation bias about the water tanks, the memes going around social media leave out the fact that the water tank in which Lam was found was unlocked, and instead, focus on the fact that the tank was behind a “locked and alarmed door that only employees had the key to.” However, the important information erased from this section of the story is that the tank could also be reached by climbing by an unlocked, unalarmed fire escape that is very accessible and that anyone can climb with little effort, especially a fit 21 year old woman.

Lam’s behavior in the elevator has been described as “almost not human” and “very strange” by many memes on the subject, and yet, to the critical thinker, her behavior looks exactly like that of someone having a manic episode or who is otherwise confused.

The “malfunctioning” elevator? Again, the stories don’t focus on the fact that Lam can be clearly seen punching multiple floors over and over again. This will cause any elevator to open and close its doors multiple times; and there is nothing mysterious or supernatural about that whatsoever.

How can the bizarre nature of Lam’s death (found in a water tank) be explained? Well, Elisa Lam is far from the first person to have committed suicide or accidentally drowned in a water tank. In 2010, a Spotswood, NJ man climbed into a remote water tank and drowned. His death was ruled a suicide brought on by his lack of employment at the time. In 2013, a toddler accidentally drowned in a water tank in Wisconsin. These are just two examples that pop up among hundreds of examples of people who tragically died the same way.

Was Eliza Lam murdered by a ghost? No. Absolutely not. Every circumstance in Lam’s death can be easily explained by the natural world, and it dishonors her memory and struggle with mental illness to fabricate outlandish stories about non-existent supernatural entities or some bizarre and nearly incoherent “conspiracy” theory about the hotel in which she was staying. Let’s stop the childish reports and let Lam’s family grieve in peace without having to see such nonsense spewed forth about their loved one.

By: Rebecca Savastio

USA Today

The Vigilant Citizen

NJ.com

Skeptic’s Dictionary

84 Responses to "Was Elisa Lam Murdered by a Ghost?"

  1. Amy   February 21, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    Yeah I saw on YouTube that the demon was in that hotel she was staying at.

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  2. gustavoortiz   December 9, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    ok this girl was possessed because how in the hell did she get a key to go up the water tank of the buliding doesnt that raise any questions at all

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  3. dhinged   October 4, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    Her being possessed is as good an explanation as any, because the elevator looks possessed too.

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  4. KingBen   September 3, 2015 at 12:02 am

    Her working on a military article about stealth technology was omitted from your “report”. Thus leaving out the grand old govt! (See Michael Hastings, Phillips). No one has mentioned how often she had those incoherent, bouts w her disorder? She was capable & culpable to travel from Canada to Cali wNo problem! What else r u selling?

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  5. Swarup Mondal   May 22, 2015 at 11:37 am

    Well and Kathy, no offence to anyone and I am not being a racist here, but Chinese people look a lot like each other in most of the cases. I am sure there are a lot Chinese 21 year girl who look like her.

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  6. Swarup Mondal   May 22, 2015 at 11:31 am

    She was schizophrenic. The most plausible explanation.

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  7. Kathy   April 9, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    Oh and about the picture, the face in the background was BLURRY while the man posing in the front wasn’t. So it WAS a ghost, 99% certain it was Elisa and I’m 90% sure she was trying to tell us something.

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  8. Kathy   April 9, 2015 at 7:33 pm

    When Elisa walks out of the elevator and out of view from the camera (around 2:27 I think), you can see a foot that isn’t Elisa’s because you can see that she turns around and right after that it pops up. Also, when Elisa is on the left side of the elevator (I saw this online so I don’t know when it happened), you can see a brown hand holding a gun and Elisa’s hand on the gun as well. Also, when Elisa is outside on the right, shaking and moving her hands, I think she was talking to someone.

    My opinion on Elisa’s death is that someone was outside, hiding from her. I mean, she’s peeking out of the elevator as if someone is following her and you can see a brown hand holding a guy and the foot. She also looks scared and kind of terrified as she is pressing all the buttons and repeatedly looking outside.
    I think that someone working at the hotel killed Elisa. Maybe a janitor. Two reasons why: 1, if someone was really outside the elevator, notice that they didn’t want to be seen. This means that they knew about the camera in the elevator. Someone who works there needs to know about the cameras (or should already) but if it’s just a random person, they will actually be seen because they don’t know just like in every video where someone is shown getting kidnap or hurt in an elevator.
    2, if the water tank was locked by the key, who do you think would have the key? Someone who works there. How would they be able to know where the key was and how to get there? Simple, the person who worked there, responsible for Elisa’s death already knew where the things were.
    I’m only fourteen but this case seems interesting to me so I’ve been doing a lot of research on the poor woman. If they want to find out who did it, they should do the EVP one where they try to get Elisa to tell them what the man/woman looked like.
    Has anyone noticed on Google that one of the men that was friends with Elisa took a picture AFTER her death and in the background you can see a woman that looks a lot like Elisa??? I wonder if this is her ghost or if she’s trying to tell us something by appearing in a picture of a guy that knew her? He MAY be the guy that killed her. Sadly, she can’t tell us.
    RIP Elisa Lam

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  9. Jimmy   February 11, 2015 at 11:47 am

    Two things i notice. First like everyone those elevator doors are acting strangely. Second im unsure the video looks like it could have been tampered with. Just before the doors close it seems to lag.

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  10. Laura   January 22, 2015 at 6:33 am

    1. She entered elevator and press several floors button and moved afterward.
    2. After pressing several floor buttons, it seems like she press “close” button also.
    3. Then, she moved step backward; after she moved step backward, instead of door closing, the door slightly start closing but soon return to open. ← if someone will check this hotels’ elevator , it is interesting.

    4. Because of “3” happened, she seemed just has checked if someone outside the elevator door.
    5. But she could not see anyone outside, so she entered the elevator again. This time, She had tried to stand the corner of the elevator ; maybe she still thought someone was near the elevator (eg., corner of the hotel corridor).
    6. But again, no one came, she got out from the elevator and maybe she expected someone will come.
    7. Unfortunately, no one came, so she felt bored and started doing exercise in her way.
    8. Then she tried to hop into elevator and moved quickly around the door to check if the door will react or not ( but she did not see the door itself, so it is strange though)
    9. After “8”, she moved her arm and hand in front of the elevator door; it seemed like she was checking again if something exist to keep the door open.
    10. She could not find the reason the door still kept opened, so she gave up and left the elevator.

    This elevator reacted strange way; why the door stopped closing the door after she stepped backward. Maybe she had done to play with elevator several time like this(e.g., pressing all the floors)?? Because of her play, someone who is control elevator did this bad joke to her intentionally ??
    Like this act, maybe she was walking around this hotel for nothing and accidentally reached the top roof in the night (e.g., following hotel workers etc)?? Then she faced someone at the top roof accidentally ??
    I do not think she entered the water tank by herself if it was really locked by the key at that time.

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  11. Paul O Connor   January 21, 2015 at 2:23 am

    i fully agree with fiaz muhammads and kc’s comments.also,i have read she was found naked and her clothes were never found??i am a person who is very skeptical about paranormal but this whole scenario just doesnt add up

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  12. fiaz muhammad   January 17, 2015 at 7:43 pm

    this case is not so simple as described in this article. still behaviour of elissa lam is not explained fully, and elevator behaviour is also can not be explained. how she reached tanks 10 feet high in darkness of night?

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  13. KC   January 9, 2015 at 10:46 am

    My only question is why the elevator door didn’t close the whole time she was there and then started to function properly as soon as she left?

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  14. currentlyastranger   December 26, 2014 at 1:16 am

    Maybe she was crazy or something u know

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  15. Jason Connor   October 30, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    Also, there were some people who made a video of the roof/fire escape etc. and posted it online. Why didn’t they videotape how many security cameras there are and where. I never found anything online about someone walking through that hotel and finding that out. Whether they were working or not is another story but how many cameras did that hotel have at the time and what was their location. I have seen 3D schematics online but noone ever mentions anything other than the one camera. Usually, if there is one camera in a large establishment, there are usually more. Is it in the police report or can the security company who installed the camera(s) be found and do they have it in their records?

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  16. Jason Connor   October 30, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    One of the things I find interesting about many of the stories I have read is that many state that the elevator incident occurred “just before” or “soon before” her death. I don’t understand how that can be deduced since there is no evidence of when she died other than she was in the water tank for a few weeks, according to what seems to be a good coroner’s estimate.. She was found 19 days after anyone had contact with her or she was seen on any security camera. She could have died a few days later, anywhere, and then was brought up to the roof, was staying in someone else’s room until she was murdered or committed suicide etc.

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  17. baiyuantongbei   October 24, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    Interesting the narrowminded writer decided to take the straw man approach to Elisa’s disappearance rather than an open minded approach. There’s no telling what happened to her. She somehow managed to climb to the roof from where she was? All the buttons she pressed (however) were lower floors, not higher ones. She appears to be on drugs, but isn’t. It is alluded to by police that she was “bi polar” even though unproven. Then she disappears. Also, no one asks, “are there not other security cams in the (now defunct) Cecil Hotel?” How is it possible that the elevator is the only one?

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  18. Louise   September 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    When the doors are opening and closing, it’s just going to all of the floors of the buttons she pushed and opening/closing. You can tell because the wall paint is a different color each time it opens, which would mean it’s going to different floors. Such a tragic event for this young woman and her family.

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  19. Paul K   August 13, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    A beautiful woman, such a shame. My regards and sympathies to her family. Her odd behaviour shows something is not right with her. Another possibility is someone could of slipped her something that pushed her past a functional level. The elevator is oddly functionkng as well.

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    • dhinged   August 18, 2014 at 12:57 pm

      If she wasn’t beautiful it wouldn’t be a shame? What exactly is required for this to be a shame?

      It’s “could have” not “could of”.

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  20. Denny Craneftw   July 13, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    “Shortly after the discovery of Elisa Lam’s body, a deadly outbreak of tuberculosis occurred in Skid Row, near Cecil Hotel. The name of the test kit used in these kinds of situations: LAM-ELISA.”

    Nothing to see here. Move along.

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  21. Alistair   July 13, 2014 at 1:14 am

    Read the autpsy report here- http://www.pdf-archive.com/2014/02/24/el-autopsy/preview-el-autopsy-22
    Makes for interesting bedtime reading.

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  22. Rob Blue (@rblue78)   July 9, 2014 at 10:58 am

    I’m all for realistic theories, but the “malfunctioning doors” on the elevator aren’t referring to them opening when the elevator travels to various floors. The elevator doors remain open until she exits the elevator. Why? I am also of the understanding (correct me I’m incorrect), that the tank had to be cut open to extract her. Maybe it was unlocked, but why was that necessary?

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  23. Randy   July 8, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    I don’t see any bias in this article. They are simply giving additional facts that others have chosen to leave out for whatever reason. If there is “much more” that is unexplained, what is it? The only other thing I have heard is that her name is similar to that of a TB test that was conducted in the area (unrelated to Elisa). Coincidences happen all the time.

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  24. Jake   July 7, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    the author accuses people of confirmation bias, but what about rejection bias? whoever wrote this clearly has rejection bias. there is also much more to this story that is unexplained.

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  25. Daisy   June 27, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    What do you think ‘meme’ means? Those speculations from the internet are theories not memes….

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  26. Dominic troman   June 12, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    I think that both possibility are possible for instance she had mental health issues so this could be the cause however their was never any reaction like this recorded by the parents, which could mean that it was the first time that it had been this bad, in the video it shows her unable to operate the lift yet it also seems that she knows what the lift is for (i.e. She press’s the buttons and waits inside the lift) this could be liked to a panic like state in which we know what to do but because of the fear we can’t do it properly, it could also be that in her bipolar episode she was having some logic was getting though ( which opens up the question why go into the water tank in the first place?) dose this mean that something spooked her to make her act this way maybe, maybe not. As it had been said that she may have climbed out a window and up the fire escape stairs to the roof, this to is suspicious on the bases that she struggled to operate the elevator yet was however able to clim out a window and up to the roof with out alerting anyone? And then to undress herself and then make her way into the water tank and then upon hitting the water the proceed not to attempt to escape? Could she has been taken over by a ghost or demon this to dose not add up to well as in the footage she dose at first seem in a panic and avoiding someone but the later she seems more like she’s playing a game rather than scared also in most story’s and myths around demons and ghost those that posses people tend to want to keep them alive and use the person as a vessel in which to do their evil deeds so this also leaves a few questions unanswered, the idea that she was murdered by people is I think easy to rule out as she like I said earlier dose not seem scared Also no bruising or marks where found on her body lastly in the footage of the elevator their is no sign of anyone their so I believe that this alone rules out murder, when I look at the evidence the only answers I get is she was ether a victim of her mental illness or that she was being ‘forced’ to kill her self by some thing, either way both possibilities leave unanswered questions I think the only things we can say for sure is that regardless how it happened its a tragic loss.

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    • Dave H   June 13, 2014 at 10:08 am

      The best theory I’ve heard is that she met someone who worked there who had spiked her drink or something which caused her to act erratically, and who had stood out of view of the mirror facing the camera, and had gone up to the roof with her (either up the ladder or through the door), raped her, then threw her naked body into the water tank and disposed of her clothes.

      What I don’t understand is why the police investigators suddenly shut off all interviews and information to the case.

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  27. Joesph   May 16, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    If it can’t be explained, it MUST be a ghost!!!

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    • Dave H   May 18, 2014 at 11:38 am

      In the absence of any explanation, any explanation will do.

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  28. Dave H   March 8, 2014 at 11:54 am

    She’s too psychotic to use an elevator but cogent enough to go through an unlocked window, climb a fire escape, take off her clothes, climb into a sealed water tank, seal herself back up and drown with no struggle?

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  29. Patrick   January 31, 2014 at 3:04 am

    The first time I watched this, primed with the expectations of something truly, evil, paranormal, or murderous of the worst kind, I was fixated. The lift scene alone is so strange – especially in the context of ghosts, Illuminati plots, possession and murder.

    But I watched it again the next day. The lift scene is not that remarkable. It looks like a young woman alone, acting very strangely. With absolutely NO evidence whatsoever that she was been stalked, preyed upon – in fact everything suggests she is TOTALLY alone. & certainly no other entities are even remotely evident. Just a crappy lift, I have experienced many.

    The roof top WAS accessible via a fire exit and getting into a tank via an unlocked hatch……… child’s play. The reason why the otherwise unharmed Elisa, devoid of clothing, toxins or evidence of foul play – but afflicted with mental health issues (supported by the lift scene) found her way into the water tank? …. is a tragic mystery. BUT a mystery ONLY to the extent that we don’t know why Elisa, alone with strange behaviors – found her way into the water tank.

    The cautionary tale is for hotel owners (and building managers in general), to secure water sources properly to avoid misadventure or premeditated contamination of water supplies. I would expect the Lam family will be successful in their claim against the Hotel for culpability, which will be little or NO consolation for the loss of a loved family member.

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    • Slevin   January 31, 2014 at 2:19 pm

      I totally understand where you’re coming from, Patrick. All of it seems cut and dry enough to just blame this on her psycological state at the time the video was recorded. It supports the accidental death theory and yes, there was in fact access to that roof even though authorities claimed there wasn’t.

      However, indulge me here for one second and watch the youtube video linked here http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2435029/pg1

      Let me know what you think.

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  30. ELISA N. susie   January 29, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    ….Elisa Lam was an Alien Hybrid controlled by a MIND Microchip ….she was killed by her controller …he controlled her microchip to go and kill herself. THAT’s ALL. ask the CIA they know ALL about that.

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  31. Slevin   January 15, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    Okay..I’ve got some problems with this article. I think we’ve got a case of plausible deniability here. The Cecil is a host to the undesirable element in the downtown L.A. area. Also supposedly having ties to the police department. Someone’s hiding something.

    There are also some facts not mentioned in this article. Mainly that the CCTV footage was edited for both time and content. I’d like to see you blame that on confirmation bias.

    Now, saying that an elevator, after having all it’s buttons pushed as much as Elisa did would cause it to malfunction is simply not true. I’ve lived in NYC for twenty seven years and have been in the rattiest tenaments The Bronx has to offer. Never have I seen an elevator malfunction like this. Especially due to pressing several buttons incessantly. The only way you’d have an elevator do this is if the emergency protocol is activated (which would require a 1620 or similar type of specially made key) or if someone was physically obstructing the doorway, applying pressure to the safety tape or breaking the laser installed at the foot of the entrance way. The elevator just stopped working. Once she steps off, it functions again but opens and closes several times. Something’s foul.

    Elisa was seen days earlier at a local coffee shop and asked a young lady about potential gifts for her family. She was obviously in her right mind at least at that point. Now if she was prone to extreme behavior like some might suggest, what family member in their right mind would let her travel alone? Certainly not hers.

    Last but not least – there’s the letter sent to her friend in BC while in the states and makes mention of “two stalkers”..this wasn’t an accident.

    All of the above can be found by doing a little homework. No, Lisa Lam was not killed by a ghost. Her killer was very human and he/she are still walking around as we speak. What a world..

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  32. Seg Bel   January 13, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    Elisa Lam was not a celebrity. She was not a rich woman either.
    She was just a young girl, a student, and she was not american. Of course, this case could not spend the LAPD valorous time.
    When Michael Jackson died, we heard about every single circumstances about the fact… we saw lots of pictures of his house, room and so on. We heard about everyone involved with him, we knew what medicines he used to take and everything about his routine. later, the TV showed us everything that Doctor did that day, and we knew the sentence of his judgment.
    Same happened with Whitney Houston and most recently, with Paul Walker’s death.
    But that poor girl, Elisa, she was unknown… she died naked in a water tank because she had psychological problems -> she was bipolar (!!!!). Ok. It’s so simple, so logical. It happens all the time, as Mrs. Savatio says: “Lam is far from the first person to have committed suicide or accidentally drowned in a water tank”… so, that’s it. RIP poor girl. We never know what really happened to you in those final moments.
    Sorry I don’t want to offend anyone, just expressing my opinion about this “so logical incident of accidental drowning”.

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    probably a christmas breakup gone wrong

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  39. Florence   December 28, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Hi! I just get to know this incidents through tv news in Malaysia. I’m curious, if après on with a mental illness, will the person think of suicide in a hotel water tank rooftop.? I think a person with mental illness will think of suicide in his/her room or jump out of the window. It is a bit illogical to suicide in a hotel water tank plus naked. To me it doesn’t make sense. It seems more like a murder case than suicide.
    Sorry if I offended anyone, I just want to voice my opinion on this.

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  56. John   December 20, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Watch closely as she has to step over what appears to be the front tip of a shoe / boot with her right foot. It is only visible for a second or so then it moves back out of frame. I suspect foul play and the murderer is still out there. That hotel has a rather dubious history if one was to do a little research.

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  57. Jamie   December 16, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    Watch her feet at the very end (of her) when she walks away. It looks like she is stepping over something? Perhaps someones foot?

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    • paul   December 17, 2013 at 1:57 am

      “I find it odd that she can be seen as acting bizarrely in the elevator; she was seemingly stymied by the elevator buttons. Yet, not long after she was lucid enough to make her way to the roof”

      The human brain is hard wired for pattern recognition. That is why people see familiar shapes in clouds. In this case it is also why you are making judgements that you cannot evidence. You cannot know that she was “lucid” when she made her way to the roof, you are just filling that part in yourself.

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  58. Derp   December 13, 2013 at 12:31 am

    Ledoux, while bipolar disorder isnt the same thing as schizophrenia, people with moderate to severe cases of bipolar disorder are still prone to psychotic episodes. Most people diagnosed with bipolar disorder are actually prescribed antipsychotic medications.

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  59. sam   December 12, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    I have a few questions for those who have been following the case more closely than I have been able to. Is it a possibility that she went for a little dip in the water tank only to find out she couldnt get out & spent days in there? If she did not die from drowning than is it possible she died from hypothermia from being submerged in cool water for hours,maybe even days?

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  60. Ledoux   December 11, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Bipolar disorder is not schizophrenia. Only someone suffering schizophrenia would hallucinate and experience a distorted reality. Anyone can be diagnosed bipolar, especially women with their wild fluctuating hormones.

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    • Amanda   December 24, 2013 at 11:38 pm

      How completely FALSE. Please don’t make such brazen statements about psychological disorders you clearly know nothing about.

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  61. paul   December 9, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Without wanting to add further conjecture into the bargain here I did note that in the elevator video at 1:30 she re enters the lift initially her hands are place on her head and as she enters the lift she puts her arms out to (apparently) steady herself. As someone who has worked as a support worker for young people I would suggest that is because she is under the influence of a substance or (more likely) emotionally distressed..

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  62. Laurab   December 7, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    There is nothing in the autopsy report substantiating an accidental death or homicide. Furthermore, there is no professional diagnostic report supporting claims of Bipolar Disorder.

    Any sort of judgment call on her mental health based on that video and her social media posts is dubious at best. In fact, this too is an interpretation based on very scant information and yet another form of confirmation bias.

    I find it odd that she can be seen as acting bizarrely in the elevator; she was seemingly stymied by the elevator buttons. Yet, not long after she was lucid enough to make her way to the roof, procure a ladder, remove a hatched lid, take off all her clothes, toss them in the water tank, and climb in through an opening barely two feet wide without even a slight scrape or bruise? The mental health argument, while certainly more plausible than ghosts, is not supported adequately enough to support an accidental manner of death.

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  63. Biff Malibu   December 1, 2013 at 6:06 am

    While I’m not a believer in ghosts,Rebecca herself is demonstrating examples of “confirmation bias.” She wants to believe the mental illness/suicide theory so badly that she conveniently leaves out the details like: “she was found naked. Did she really climb the fire escape naked without anyone noticing? And no clothes found on the roof. And how did the lid get closed after she voluntarily jumped in to kill herself? The autopsy also found no evidence as to how she died. That means no water in lungs which means no drowning” which all point to foul play.

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  64. audri   November 27, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    As much as I want to believe your article…. I dont. It just doesnt add up none of it. If the water tank was unlocked and she got in, how in the world was it not possible for probably a fairly strong MAN not to be able to get her out, ya’know. Its strange. In the beginning of the video she looks like shes playing around. But then progressivley she starts to get serious. And she does this strange stepping motion. And her hands looks like shes trying toexplain something. And she grabs her head like shes getting fustrated. So is it a date or a joke gone horribly wrong? Or is it something man just cant explain. I think her parents have the right to know that their daughters death is one of societys greatest most tragic mysteries and that their daughter is in all our prayers . God bless her soul

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  65. Candice   November 20, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    I’ve never seen an elevator’s doors stay open for 3 minutes, especially not when someone has pushed every button in the elevator.

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    • Dave   November 21, 2013 at 5:11 pm

      Yes i agree. Did the Elevator also have severe bipolar disorder? lol.

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  66. Taylor Smith   November 19, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Dave, what you wrote is exactly that’s what I have been maintaining and saying from day one..the moment I saw the video. Sadly, the “confirmation bias” people refused to accept that. Elisa’s lack of home support mechanism for her mental illness very likely contributed to her condition.

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  67. Taylor Smith   November 19, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Mel T, read my post to Cece. The above article explains the unlocked opening and how Elisa got in.

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    • Mel T   November 22, 2013 at 3:28 am

      I’m sure with the detectives’ years of experience on the field would have enabled them to reach to a viable conclusion by now and few suspects in mind.. but why are they still stumped? We have no access to the full details of the case….what we have are only what the media reported so we can only speculate wildly with only our imaginations, not facts.

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  68. Taylor Smith   November 19, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Cece, you need to read the above article again. Your beliefs, your (own) facts do not support the real facts. Read the article again and you will realize how you once again your opinion is way off track.

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  69. Mel T   November 19, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Even the firemen had to cut through the tank to get to her body, how do u explain that..

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  70. Cece   November 18, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    I don’t think she was killed by ghosts but I find it hard to believe she was able to lift the lid of the water tank after the firemen even had a hard time doing so. Also, she was found naked. Did she really climb the fire escape naked without anyone noticing? And no clothes found on the roof. And how did the lid get closed after she voluntarily jumped in to kill herself? The autopsy also found no evidence as to how she died. That means no water in lungs which means no drowning. Even without ghosts it sounds suspicious.

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  71. Laurie c   November 18, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    I am really guilty of this….I have been spending too much time on “hearsay”. I was convinced it was foul play…your theory is the only one that has made me think twice.
    Thank you!!!

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  72. Laurie   November 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Did they find her clothes? Did she have water in her lungs?i read her blogs and she was depressed like millions of people are.

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    • Mel T   November 22, 2013 at 3:34 am

      They didn’t find her clothes, no water in lungs, no bruises or injury, no drugs in her system. Only meant that she was already dead before her body was somehow placed inside the tank.

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  73. Dave   November 18, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    Thank you! This article perfectly sums up what a (seemingly) vocal minority of internet users have been saying since soon after Elisa was found. Based on reports and internet sleuthing (including Elisa’s Tumblr entries), it becomes very apparent that she was struggling with mental illness. There always seems to be a great deal of misinformation when ‘strange’ stories come along, and this case was no different. It took a lot of searching, but me and some other members of an amateur sleuthing community created a strong case for her death being the result of natural causes and events, and that she had accidentally caused her own death despite the fact that she was staying in a ‘murder hotel.’ The elevator video, nature of her death, and history of the Cecil Hotel all combined to create a lot of nonsense. The Chinese media didn’t help the situation. Anyway, I’ve seen her entire autopsy report personally (it is available if one is willing to deal with the LA Coroner’s office), and everything in it fully supports the fact that Elisa suffered an accidental death due to her unstable mental condition. We will never know the exact course of events, but it’s fairly clear that she went to the roof soon after the elevator situation and ultimately ended up crawling into the tank for any number of possible delusional reasons. Once in the tank, it is unlikely that she could have pulled herself out; she was trapped, in other words, or at least this is the most likely case. It was a strange course of events, but that fact doesn’t justify the confirmation bias that proceeded to flood the internet from every paranoid crowd imaginable, the most common being Illuminati theorists. The majoroity of the ghost theories seemed to come from China. Sadly, when people begin to see the world through a certain lens, everything becomes a ‘clue,’ and the truth they believe they’re piecing together is ironically the exact opposite.

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    • Taylor Smith   November 19, 2013 at 6:51 pm

      Dave, what you wrote is exactly that’s what I have been maintaining and saying from day one..the moment I saw the video. Sadly, the “confirmation bias” people refused to accept that. Elisa’s lack of home support mechanism for her mental illness very likely contributed to her condition.

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    • LauraB   December 7, 2013 at 10:34 pm

      There is nothing in the autopsy report substantiating an accidental death or homicide. Furthermore, there is no professional diagnostic report supporting claims of Bipolar Disorder.

      Any sort of judgment call on her mental health based on that video and her social media posts is dubious at best. In fact, this too is an interpretation based on very scant information and yet another form of confirmation bias.

      I find it odd that she can be seen as acting bizarrely in the elevator; she was seemingly stymied by the elevator buttons. Yet, not long after she was lucid enough to make her way to the roof, procure a ladder, remove a hatched lid, take off all her clothes, toss them in the water tank, and climb in through an opening barely two feet wide without even a slight scrape or bruise? The mental health argument, while certainly more plausible than ghosts, is not supported adequately enough to support an accidental manner of death.

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