Nelson Mandela, Death, Dishonesty and Denial

Nelson Mandela, Death, Dishonesty and Denial

After weeks of speculation, South African court documents revealed that Nelson Mandela is, by all intents and purposes, dead. What followed his death is a tale of dishonesty and denial – staining the South African Government and its public institutions.

The documents, part of a legal filing in a Mandela family dispute, reveal that doctors told the family of the former President that “He is in a permanent vegetative state and is assisted in breathing by a life support machine…The Mandela family has been advised by the medical practitioners that his life support machine should be switched off.”

The court documents containing this revelation are dated June 26th; one day before The Guardian Express reported that Madiba – the tribal name by Nelson Mandela, Death, Dishonesty and Denialwhich Mandela is often known – had passed away.

Mandela’s health had been declining for some time and on June 8th, he was rushed to the Medi-clinic Heart Hospital in Pretoria to be treated for a recurring lung infection. As the days passed, South Africans gathered in vigil outside the hospital and the South African government urged people to pray for the former President, who is considered a hero in South Africa for leading the nation out of Apartheid and becoming the county’s first black national leader.

Updates on Mandela’s health have fluctuated between ominous and optimistic in the days and weeks that followed. The whole nation was mired in dishonesty and denial over Mandela’s death. On June 23rd, South African government officials announced that his condition had deteriorated and CNN reported that he was now no longer able to breathe unassisted and had been placed on life support. On June 25th, the day that – according to The Guardian Express – Mandela died, his closest family members had gathered for a meeting in his childhood home of Qunu, in South Africa’s Eastern Cape Province. That evening, the family was joined at Mandela’s bedside by Cape Town Archbishop Thabo Makgoba. Nelson Mandela was Christian, although there seems some dispute as to which branch of the faith he belonged. A family gathering at his bedside, with an Archbishop in attendance, on the very evening that – according to The Guardian Express – he passed away, seems more than coincidental.

Days later, South African President Jacob Zuma – along with other government and ANC officials – were describing Mandela’s condition as improving.  Zuma repeatedly told the People of South Africa that the nation’s beloved icon was “critical but stable”.

Nelson Mandela, Death, Dishonesty and DenialWe now know that Zuma and the ANC were lying. The Guardian Express timeline of events can be found here. Even if Mandela had been still alive, there is no possibility that his condition was improving.  According to the McGraw-Hill Concise Dictionary of Modern Medicine, a “permanent vegetative state” – more commonly called “persistent vegetative state” (PVS) – is a condition characterized by “no behavioral evidence of awareness of self or surroundings in a learned manner, other than reflex activity of muscles and nerves for low level conditioned response,” and “from which to a reasonable degree of medical probability, there can be no recovery.”

Cheryl Arenella MD, MPH, in an article entitled Coma and Persistent Vegetative State: An Exploration of Terms, writes “A person in a vegetative state can no longer “think,” reason, relate meaningfully with his/her environment, recognize the presence of loved ones, or “feel” emotions or discomfort. The higher levels of the brain are no longer functional.”

Later reports from South Africa revealed ongoing construction of new roads in Qunu; presumably, to accommodate mourners. In addition – even whilst official accounts insisted that the former President and leader of the African National Congress (ANC) was still clinging to life – reports emerged of a legal tussle between Mandela family members, regarding the site of his eventual resting place. Most assumed that Mandela would be buried in Qunu, where he grew up and had his retirement home.  Grandson Mandla Mandela, however, had planned to ensure that his grandfather was laid to rest in the nearby village of Mvezo, where he, Mandla, holds the position of chief. Mandla had already had the bodies of three of Mandela’s children exhumed from their graves in Qunu and reburied in Mvezo. Other family members are currently attempting to have the courts compel Mandla to return the bodies to Qunu. It is this legal battle that led to the revelation over Mandela’s condition. What’s more, one might ask, why would Mandla execute such an action if he believed his grandfather would recover? Did Mandela’s grandson know he would never have to answer to Madiba? How did he know?

Media organizations – both in South Africa and overseas – have been criticized for speculating over Mandela’s condition, particularly since he was Nelson Mandela, Death, Dishonesty and Denialreadmitted to the hospital. The government, the ANC organization and members of Mandela’s family have been urging people to remain calm and have also expressed their displeasure with the press. Although there have been numerous erroneous reports of Mandela’s passing from as early as late 2012, The Guardian Express was the first media organization in the United States – possibly, the world – to report his death as having happened Tuesday evening; this, after our South African correspondent, Laura Oneale, was notified by a very well-placed source. Even after publishing the news Wednesday, The Guardian Express, whilst having complete confidence in this source, continued its attempts to uncover further details and determine why news of Mandela’s death, or at least his presumption of death, was being concealed. Without absolute confirmation of the reasons behind the cover-up, The Guardian Express initially decided to publish no further articles on the subject. Likely factors, however, were security fears, particularly in light of President Obama’s important, impending arrival.

The decision regarding whether or not to publish the story was not easy; one of the site’s senior editors argued against it. The site initially published three stories, commenting on his death – links to these stories are listed at the foot of this article. The original source – because of their position – was determined to have sufficient credibility, although The Guardian Express senior staff continued searching for further information, including several phone calls to Mandela’s hospital. At no point, during any of these calls, were journalists or editors from The Guardian Express told that Mandela was alive; on one such call, the question “is Mandela Alive?” was asked and was met by a lengthy pause, followed by the statement that staff members did not have any information and had been told to give out no information.

In the interests of journalistic integrity, the site was not prepared to retract the story unless conclusive evidence was obtained that showed Mandela still to be alive; no such evidence was discovered, neither at that time, nor at any time since. Other media outlets that published word of Madiba’s passing quickly retracted their stories.

Since the publication of the first articles relating to Mandela’s death, every assertion that he was still alive has originated from Jacob Zuma, ANC officials and/or the Mandela family, who, sadly, appear to have been coerced or duped into perpetuating the deception. Every media outlet that continues to report on the state of Mandela’s health is basing its reporting on official sources and interviews with family members. No-one, other than the medical staff at the Medi-clinic Heart Hospital, the family or the government has seen Mandela since the day The Guardian Express reported his death. Not even President Obama was allowed to see him. There is, therefore, not one shred of evidence that he remains alive. The Guardian Express, however, has a very well-placed source confirming that Mandela is no longer with us. In that light, breaking the story was a bold, but logical, decision.

Nelson Mandela, Death, Dishonesty and DenialAccording to a report Thursday in South Africa’s Independent Online, the Mandela family has refused to allow his life-support apparatus to be switched off until the remains of his children are relocated to Qunu. If this is, in fact, the only reason that Mandela is still, to this day, on life support, then the family has already accepted that he is dead; they are merely delaying  making the fact ‘technically’ final, in order that the respected elder statesman not be buried alone.

Although Mandela’s death is all but officially admitted – and likely will not be- (as this would confirm that the South African government has been deceiving the nation) The Guardian Express has always maintained that he did, in fact, leave us Tuesday evening, as reported. This belief is confirmed by several factors, one being that between Tuesday evening and the present time, no evidence has been produced that Mandela was still alive. Additionally, The Guardian Express website has, over the past few days, been subjected to several cyber attacks, which have taken the site offline for varying periods of time. These attacks appear to have originated in South Africa. Were it true that Mandela had still been alive after The Guardian Express reported his death, the publication would almost certainly have received official – and, quite possibly, even legal – demands for a retraction and apology. Instead, the website has been the target of crude attempts to silence it. Has the ANC graduated from actual terrorism to cyber terrorism?

As anticipation of President Obama’s visit mounted, the White House was quick to play down the prospects of a visit to Mandela’s bedside. In hindsight, it is clear that this was an attempt to preempt the embarrassing and precarious situation of Obama being forced to pretend to have met with a dead man.

The government of South Africa, assuming – correctly – that the man’s death will be the overwhelming focus of the world’s attention, will probably never address the issue of exactly when he died. Their assertion, regarding the timing of his death, may never been disproven. By the same token, The Guardian Express reports of his death Tuesday will stand, without verifiable contradiction. There will be those who maintain we were premature and not accurate, but the impeccable credentials of our South African source completely neutralize those claims.

Not wanting to lose their icon, the majority of South Africans have been in denial over Mandela’s death, resulting in their eager acceptance of their government’s dishonesty.

The Guardian Express does not cheer Mandela’s passing, but – now that these court documents reveal the true date of his death – its reporting on the matter stands alone.

As for Madiba, history will be good to him. Although he was no saint, he was – undeniably – a hero and an inspiration to many.

Graham J Noble



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422 Responses to Nelson Mandela, Death, Dishonesty and Denial

  1. ANTI-mandela! January 2, 2014 at 7:41 am


  2. ANTI-mandela! January 2, 2014 at 7:39 am

    ME TOO !!!!! South Africa would have been a MUCH better place had this terrorist NEVER seen the light of day !!!!

  3. ANTI-mandela! January 2, 2014 at 7:36 am

    YOUR WORDS – NOT MINE !!! RECOGNIZE THEM ???? >>> The whole nation was mired in dishonesty and denial over Mandela’s death. <<<

  4. Phakamile Buthelezi December 25, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Wow people like Leo are disgusting!!! I just wanna puke at people seeking to justify racial segregation, you animals are disgusting!!! I’m glad the ANC did bomb some of your sick animals, I mean anyone who thinks their superior to other races is just simply disgusting!!! Kick a bucket already, the world needs less of you!!!

  5. Nandi December 11, 2013 at 12:14 am

    Martina Bieker, to put a person in a breathing machine does not mean disrespect. Remember, Tata Madiba was in prison for 27 years. His kids grew up without him being present at home as a father figure. His kids suffered the cruelty of the white government with no one protecting them. Their mother was disrespected and humiliated by the white government and you have never stopped the white government from doing that.
    Madiba’s family was still enjoying to have him at home because that is something they were not used to. So you must understand the reason why they were clinging to him

    • arnieannd December 11, 2013 at 2:51 am

      Ag Shame !!
      Most blacks do not even know who their farthers were. And what about the bombed victims farthers, mothers families and children?????
      Just get your mind in order and think beyond the length of your nose.

  6. Leo December 9, 2013 at 12:27 am

    Mandela was a great man, despite his imperfections and shady past. LET HE THAT IS FREE OF SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. We are all guilty….so build a bridge and get over yourselves. Mandela cannot be stoned for the actions of a whole governing body and neither can all whites be stoned for the sins of a government which deceived them as well. Live for the future and let the past be a lesson to us all. I sincerely hope whoever comes to power in the next elections will bring this country back to it’s previous glory and chase all the corrupt ones into the sea.

  7. Leo December 9, 2013 at 12:10 am

    Willem, you are seriously misinformed my friend. At the same time the white settlers were travelling North, the Sotho, Xhosa, Zulu etc. were travelling south to find grazing for their cattle. The noble bushman was the OWNERS of this land everybody proclaim to be theirs. The white settlers and all other races were overcome by greed and murdered the Xhoi San people onto the brink of extinction ( just as the Americans did to the IIndigenous indians and the Germans to the Jews and the Hutu to the Tutsi.etc). If anyone can stand up and cry LAND GRABBING, It’s the bushman who were here first and believed in living in harmony with nature. The other black nations moved in an left everything they touched barren, animals and trees dissappear overnight where they set foot. The white settlers introduced so much technology that the rivers and underground reservoirs became poisonous and the land was turned upside down. All of you had apart in the destruction of this beautiful place and now you are fighting for the scraps. All idiots if you ask me….

  8. Leo December 8, 2013 at 11:54 pm

    Seems to me all these people commenting on this issue are either teenagers or very young , thats reading between the lines of course. Being there and being a witness earns you the podium to comment. Commenting on such serious issues if you are misinformed or talking out of books and newspapers is just not on. I witnessed both the apartheid government and the anc government’s rule and can honestly say that the anc ran this country into the ground !!!. Public services, roads, sewerage, parks, schools and countless other infrastructures are in such a state of neglect and disrepair that it would NEVER recover. The Police and Army is a joke….if they cannot fight common criminal, how will they protect us against trained military personnel. I’ve seen my town turn from award winning municipality to a slum in 15 years. Most of my black friends and colleagues yearn for the prosperity the apartheid government provided and do not believe the deceptions of the anc government, cause they’ve also witnessed the demise of a wonderful country. Nelson Mandela was an International icon for bringing a peaceful transition to South Africa, but at what cost…..

  9. ANTI-mandela! December 6, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    Dear Guardian Express and ALL other media – PLEASE refrain from using phrases like “the WHOLE of South Africa” , “the WHOLE nation” , “ALL South Africans” , etc. PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK ON MY AND THE OTHER MILIONS OF NON-mandela-SUPPORTERS’ BEHALF WHEN YOU WRITE CARBAGE LIKE “he was a hero to all” – MILIONS (MYSELF INCLUDED) DID NOT REGARD HIM AS ANYTHING MORE THAN A MURDEROUS TERRORIST !!! I FOR ONE, will ALWAYS remember this atheist as a TRAITOR and the FILTH who ordered the BRUTAL MURDERS of NUMEROUS INNOCENT South Africans !!!

  10. ANTI-mandela! December 6, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    Dear Guardian Express and ALL other media – PLEASE refrain from using phrases like “the WHOLE of South Africa” , “the WHOLE nation” , “ALL South Africans” , etc. PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK ON MY AND THE OTHER MILIONS OF NON-mandela-SUPPORTERS’ BEHALF WHEN YOU WRITE CARBAGE LIKE “he was a hero to all” – MILIONS (MYSELF INCLUDED) DID NOT REGARD HIM AS ANYTHING MORE THAN A MURDEROUS TERRORIST !!! I FOR ONE, will ALWAYS remember this atheist as a TRAITOR and the FILTH who ordered the BRUTAL MURDERS of NUMEROUS INNOCENT South Africans !!! May his CORRUPT soul NEVER rest !!!

    • Graham Noble December 6, 2013 at 6:53 pm

      I’m not disputing your views on Mandela; I neither entirely agree nor disagree and you are entitled to your opinion. I do, however, dispute your ability to read. I have not used a single word or phrase in this article that suggests that “all” South Africans felt or believed anything.

    • Russell Wright December 9, 2013 at 9:30 pm

      Your opinion of Mandela seems as much at odds with world opinion as world opinoin on apartheid was…why is that I wonder.

  11. Michael Tours December 6, 2013 at 12:40 am

    R.I.P Madiba

    Finally, the dishonesty of the authors of these Pathetic headline grabbing articles on Guardian LV have been exposed!!

    You were ALL wrong. And whilst you pathetically defended your positions by suggesting everyone else who didn’t believe your lies was in denial, it has well and truly blown up in your faces.

    It is indeed you, the authors, who were in denial – about the lies your articles spread.

    I’m so glad we can finally put this nonsense to bed … RIP Madiba, there will always be those who wish to profit(instead of learn) from your greatness!

    • jovvy December 6, 2013 at 12:54 am

      Really? Hahah! Where and how was this “dishonesty” supposedly “exposed”? G, man… eventually they HAD to announce his death, because, come on, get real… how long can you keep it a secret? The Mandela family and government (and whoever else was involved in the cover-up) were just waiting long enough for things to “fall in place” before they could announce his death officially. Perhaps their time was up and they are only now following orders.

      • Graham Noble December 6, 2013 at 6:56 am

        Thank you. My point exactly. This Tours guy has had it in for us ever since we first wrote about Mandela.

        The amount of spite he has shown towards us is indicative of an ulterior motive. What that is, I don’t know: Failed journalist (or blogger, more likely)? Successful journalist but working for a publication that is less successful than our own? Jealous that he wasn’t up to speed on the whole sordid affair? Who knows?

        He’s a very bitter and angry person, for some reason.

  12. stanley December 6, 2013 at 12:28 am

    Well, well, well dont matter how good or bad Madiba was. The ANC and ruling party after 20 years, struggle with them seives to try and cope. They had the time, money and expertize available to ensure South Africa to become a better country. Insread, what example can they bring foward, speaking about Madiba in the same breath as an icon and get away with corruption, murder, lies and so on. Dont mention his goodness if you are not equal valued….that will ensure your not riding a blind horse. Example, 2000 BC the Romans built the colousseum, now, 2000 AC with resources and money you can only still built mud houses. Where did you miss evelution? I mean the RDP houses are falling apart, in a few years after erecting.
    example 2, Oranje, 20 years ago started with zero, today they are self efficient, have their own currency and zero crime.
    why cant we do the same?
    Try to be good and be good is two different ossues…..

  13. R.W.Brindle December 4, 2013 at 10:54 am

    In truth Nelson is probably on a life support system which will not be switched off as the family has much to gain financially with the production of movies and minting of coins etc which have been in the pipeline for a long time.His ideals will be cherished but, he was just a tool used by others to enrich themselves.

  14. Taariq December 3, 2013 at 2:30 am

    All he has are my prayers…the ANC and Madiba’s family, atleast the elders and those heading it…both suck imo…i can’t really mourne the mans death anymore, been too confused about it for so long…so peace to you Tata, you did well, sorry it didn’t turn out the way you wanted

  15. Belinda December 2, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Yes Thembi, you are right…..I wouldn’t be where I am today………… ABROAD!!!!!

  16. Thembi December 2, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    Sure enough our country is blemished, but do you all not see what this is doing to us? Reading all your comments, I’m seeing a tug of war! With all the video clips and newspaper clippings and and and, it’s like the country is on the brink of a civil war. Whatever your ideologies, do not impose them upon other people, before you even posted you comment, did you stop to think that what has been personal to you is now political? Because whether you choose to accept it or not, by airing it here, it’s now political.
    Terrorism this, apartheid that, stereotype this, apartheid that… YOU ALL HAVE DIGRESSED FROM THE TOPIC AT HAND: ‘Is Mandela really still alive???’

    Where other politics are concerned, the end justifies the means! If Mandela sacrificially gave 27yrs of his life, missing out in important events ie. Birthdays, Christmases, Easters(being Christian and all), and so forth… What with him doing it for the ‘Greater Good’ of course , freedom being an ideal he was prepared to die for, YOU ARE STUPID FOR HOLDING ON TO HIS SHORTCOMINGS!! What effort did YOU make???


  17. Sharon November 28, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    I can not believe that I am reading this, why must our president lie about Nelson Mandela’s death and even the family, why the majority of the people will now think that word of Tata being alive and well will bring more ANC voters and I doubt that very much. My mom always said if you lie you steel and I believe in her statement. What does this say about our MR. Zuma, can’t be good just typical?

  18. Belinda November 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    I speak on behalf of the “majority of South Africans have been in denial over Mandela’s death, resulting in their eager acceptance of their government’s dishonesty.” The majority of South Africans as you say, were placed under the exact same illusion that Mandela was and is still alive. Most of them only knew what the media told them, and if all the other journalists kept on retracting their statements that he is dead, what did you expect us to believe? I personally saw the Guardian’s first post that said he was dead, and i could very well believe it (and i did and still do). However, to insinuate that the SAns are eager in accepting the government’s dishonesty is a blatant misconception and frankly plain stupid!! We are screaming for help to the outside world about our dishonest government, but the outside world would not help. Just within this last week Australia refused to help white SAn refugees!! Rather tell me what you guys are doing to help us overcome this sick, twisted and dishonest government with a crime rate that exceeds all other countries, instead of just sitting there and judging how the “majority”, who mind you are also innocent and victimized people, are supposedly feeling.

    • Graham Noble November 28, 2013 at 5:22 pm

      Your comment is fair. Please bear in mind that I wrote this article in July. I truly believe that, at that time, the majority of South Africans were indeed not willing to believe he was dead. That belief was supported by our publication’s South African writers and other contacts.

      I think there has been a change since then and I do not believe that, four months later, the majority of South Africans continue to blindly accept the official line.

      As for the rampant corruption within your country’s political leadership: In my opinion, the current situation in South Africa was inevitable from the moment the ANC came to power. It is the responsibility of South Africans to rid themselves of corrupt politicians, just as it is the responsibility of Americans to rid themselves of a corrupt and extremist government.

      Thanks for your comment.

    • Russell Wright November 28, 2013 at 8:38 pm

      Speak for yourself Belinda not for me.

  19. dlozi November 25, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    this is my first time to see this article , i remember what i said on the 27th of June on Facebook, i told my friends that it is impossible for Mandela to live this long with the life sunspot machine 2 the media reported that the doctors are planning to switch off the machines and send tata Mandela to home, this is where we had to open our eyes and see that tata has gone already, but even today most of the south African they are still waiting for for the day of death of tata to come. THERE IS NO TRUTH IN THIS WORLD. i remember when the American president Obama came to south Africa, cape town,i remember i saw those black cars in Adderley street it was reported that he did not went to see Mandela in Pretoria the question to me was “WHY”. now looking at this (“Nelson Mandela was Christian, although there seems some dispute as to which branch of the faith he belonged) quoted from the article , i end up having lot of questions , 1 why a such satanic country president came to south Africa , and we were told that he never went to see tata, 2 what was the main reason to hide the death of tata , 2 is there Illuminati in south Africa or not? if one can answer me these questions then i will be happy.

  20. Jacky November 22, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    its funny reading all the comments, I just have to sit and laugh at all these stupid arguments about the past, yet the majority all wonder why South Africa is still not developing like it should be? why are we all arguing? why aren’t we standing together and completing what Mandela has started (and almost accomplished)? we all love him so much yet there is still violence, racism, corruption, treason etc? I will pray for you all and I will pray for a better South Africa because its such and amazingly beautiful country with beautiful people and amazing cultures and one day we will hopefully learn how to work together and see how amazing life will be!

  21. chips November 22, 2013 at 4:07 am

    You people are all sick. I would also do what Madiba did to get my freedom and freedom for my people. We may have to do what he did soon. Because this anc government is gonna screw everything up and I am tired of all this crap.

  22. Colleen November 21, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Nelson Mandela was a Politician – I like to believe an honest and moral one, but a Politician never the less. I am sure that most of us “ordinary” people realise that Politicians are generally greedy, power-mad, self-serving and usually corrupt individuals – as the saying goes “those among us who should be politicians shy away from that career, but the people who should not be politicians are the very ones who are”
    No matter whether you consider Mandela to be a good or bad person, the fact is that he did guide the vast and angry majority (Black people) to accept and integrate with the so-called oppressors (White minority)in a peaceful way when the ANC won the elections. Without his leadership at the time, there would have undoubtedly been bloody-letting and carnage in the country.
    However, he was one of the founders of both Luthuli and Chancellor House – the latter being the financial arm of the ANC – which has proven to be a totally corrupt entity. It has been used syphon countless billions of Rands from the fiscal to fund the ANC which in turn is funding a small elite number of politically well connected individuals who have become SA’s new obscenely rich millionaires and billionaires – all at the expense of the mainly Black poor people.
    As a result of the current public infighting amongst he Mandela family, we are aware of just how obscenely rich they have become in the last 20 years.
    In conclusion, just like everyone else, I am appalled at the way in which Mandela is being kept “alive” – it is totally undignified and cruel. For all anybody knows, he could be in severe pain but unable to communicate this fact – a living hell.
    Equally as unacceptable is the vast amount of taxpayers’ money which is being totally wasted by this macabre and futile decision of his family to prolong Mandela’s “life”
    This is money which should be spent on uplifting the living who are destitute and struggling. Mandela’s official “Children’s Fund” Charity should be benefitting from this money – not his biological children who are manipulating his death to suit their own ends!

    • Russel November 27, 2013 at 8:47 am

      This is so sad that a political organisation can play God for their own evil means! The ANC will keep him alive for as long as they choose in order to gain leverage in the next elections. This party has NEVER had any respect for human life or dignity of others – yet the sheep all follow and make their crossed on the familiar space on the ballot! Wake up and smell the roses – everything has a season which comes to an end – Madiba, Hani, The ANC etc etc …..

  23. Johann C November 21, 2013 at 6:16 am

    What the hell are you people on about. The man did what he did in the old days, came out of jail and tried his level best to unite a very divided country. It was good in the Mandela years. The rabble, riffraff, and pillagers that followed him are the ones you should be worried about. I am am white and a product of apartheid. I served in their army and was brainwashed by their doctrine but, I’ve put all of that behind me and are willing to move on. It is however, not easy with this new bunch of idiots aka The Government that are in power right now. I have had enough of their corruption, dishonesty, lies, BEE, stupidity and all the rest. We as a nation had a chance to show the world something special, How a nation could shed its past and move forward but that was not to be and we have missed our chance.

    All we have proven to the world is that we are just another sorry African state that have thrown of the chains of oppression, came to power and have been absolutely corrupted by it. The very people that voted for a better life are now the ones suffering under yet another oppressive government who are lining their pockets whilst the rest hardly see the crumbs all in the name of uhuru,freedom or whatever you want to call it. The legacy of Africa I suppose.

    Seeing all of this must eat at the very soul of Madiba. I’m sure this was not what he had in mind. Wish he came out of jail earlier so he had more time to run the country. Nelson Mandela is an icon and somebody that commanded a lot of respect. I say Viva Tata Viva.

  24. ydbabe November 21, 2013 at 2:08 am

    You are all liars and you don’t know anything about being free from aphartheid….lets not talk about what he did or did not do…South Africa has challenges like any other developing country, but we are getting there…I bet most of you are traitors that lived by selling your own people to the aphartheid system for money; hence you don’t realise. some countries are going through civil wars. if it was not for Mandela, south african would be dying… where would most of you live.. look arround and be greatful. This is the new democratic country.. you don’t have to vote ANC, there are other parties. stop mourning and do something.. you just p!$$ me off.

    • WJ December 6, 2013 at 12:41 am

      lol open your eyes SA is dying

  25. xabiso November 20, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Geeeez people,terrorist or not,the man is dead and he deserve a little bit of respect……..

    • Russell Wright November 20, 2013 at 9:01 pm

      Unless advised otherwise I choose to believe he’s still alive. Terrorist or not he deserves our respect for being the man who saved us all from ourselves.

  26. Lynn Atkinson November 20, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Look around you. Mandela did nothing for Black people. And the British (whites in case there is any confusion) educated him to be a lawyer. How many blacks have got a similar education from Mandela or the ANC. A committed Communist. A stooge for Slovo. And he admitte terrorism at his trial, lest we forget…

  27. kittu November 19, 2013 at 7:21 am

    Shame on you, those that can speak ill of an old man that has suffered so much physically and in health just for a better life for all. Shame on you, because of him you are able to express your views like you are doing now. So much for giving people rights and freedom of speech yet some of them throw it back in his face.

  28. Leonard Cilliers November 18, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    laat die man tog rus ek is n afrikaner en ek sal opstaan vir mandela hy was n goeie man ja hy het sy voute gehaat almal het voute….. as julle almal net van die begin af saam gewerk het en nie besluit het wit voor swart agter nie sou die lank nie so n vok op gewees het nie…….. wat as dit anders om was en die wit agter en swart voor en wit moes 2de gekom het ons sou die selfde reageer het as hulle n vel kleur maak nie n verskil nie mense is mense maak nie saak wat jou kleur vel of kultuur is nie…. dinge ruk hand uit maar dis ons eie skuld hoekom dit so gaan… hoekom kom die oorsee se lande goed oor die weg omdat almal daar as een staan… meeste lande is en was waar ons nou is en was en dit sal regkom as almal net vokken saam staan….. ek dink ons moet ruil wit moet vir n maand swart wees en swart wit en kyk hoe dit voel… niemand kan die verlede verandr nie maar hoekom terug kyk na die verlede as ons n better toekoms kan bou vir ons kinders en ophou rasisties wees teen oor mekaar julle maak dit net moeilik vir julle self………… Dalk is dit GOD se plan om te sien of mense saam kan staan maak nie saak wat die verkil in kleur geslag of kultuur mag wees nie…. GOD het n plan en hy sal versorg al voel dit parykeer nie so nie daar is n doel en rede vir als in die lewe wat gebeur….. niemand het die reg om n ander persoon te judge nie NET GOD het daaie reg en ek glo nie eers hy judge so erg soo wat mens op aarde doen nie….. ek is 19 gebore 1994 born free… ek ek gee nie n vok om oor die verlede nie wie presedent was wie wat gedoen het wie op die maan was nie en nog minder gee ek om wat n ander persoon van my dink of se nie… dis my lewe niemand anders sin nie en ek lewe dit soos ek dit wil lewe… lewe vir vandag more is n geskenk……

    • arnieannrnie December 6, 2013 at 10:17 pm

      Iemand wat soveel foute ( voute) in sy skrywe maak, sal waarskynlik ook vele ander oortuigings foute maak en glo.
      Mandela was ‘n moordenaar en het dit self erken.

  29. Dee November 18, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Willem jy is nou wragtig die onnoselste witmens wat ek nog tee gekom het. Gaan lees Amerikaanse geskiedenis en 200 plus jr voor suid afrika in die suide het die amerikaners die swart slawe en swart mense tot in die vore 90′s prontuit vermoor en gemartel, in Suid Afrika was die apartheids regime miskien naar teenoor swart mense maar ten minste het hulle nie gedoen wat die amerikaners het nie en tot vandag toe nog daarmee wegkom net omdat hulle dit nie apartheid genoem het nie. Miskien moet jy jou geskiedenis bietjie update of jy is maar een van daai dom blankes wat stupid sal bly die res van jou lewe.

  30. Thring November 18, 2013 at 9:24 am

    I read this article and I am inclined to believe it. . .
    Just found it funny that I read the captions on E news tonight saying , J. Zuma went to visit Mandela at his home!

  31. willem November 18, 2013 at 6:48 am

    I cant believe what iam reading, but mybe its the best fo all of as.

  32. Michelle November 18, 2013 at 4:11 am

    Mr Mandela never used any weapons of terror in a personal capacity – he was sentanced to jail for “TREASON” not terrorism! I sincerely hope the truth of his condition (alive or not) is finally revealed so that his family, friends and those of our country who love and respect him can have the opportunity to say goodbye to an amazing man.

  33. Dominic Benedetto November 16, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    What’s his condition now? Burning in hell.

  34. jan November 15, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    JA Willem jy het nie net die afrikaaner veraai nie maar jou eie oupa ook

    • Willem November 27, 2013 at 12:33 pm

      ek is bly!…you Afrikaners/whites never paid properly for the crimes that were committed during the apartheid reign…you never even admitted to it and/or asked for forgiveness for your people’s hateful disregard and treatment of the majority of your fellow South Africans…regarding yourself (which I’m sure you still do as of today) as superior!…sies!!

      • Johan November 27, 2013 at 1:26 pm

        You can fool some (many) people some of the time but you can’t fool everyone all of the time.

      • Jonelle November 29, 2013 at 1:26 pm

        Paid properly for your crimes? Eerstens Willem, ek was 2 jaar oud in 1994, so vir wat moet ek betaal? En tweedens, is plaasmoorde, ongelykheid, dreigemente van die regering en onregverdigheid nie genoeg nie? En “superior”, ekskuus? Wie regeer die land (van die wal af in die sloot in nogals)? Kry jou feite agter mekaar, Apartheid is verby (al 20 jaar terug!). Die wittes het die swart mense ‘n kans gegee. En wat het gebeur? Ag maar shame, laat hulle maar geld steel en onskuldige mense vermoor, want hulle was PREVIOUSLY disadvantaged. Het vandag ‘n artikel gelees oor ‘n arme 70 jarige vrou wat aangeval is vir haar handsak, maar dis ok, want Apartheid. Is mos hoe dit werk, of hoe?

        • Rosemary November 30, 2013 at 1:25 am

          I am ashamed of the hype that is being made of the release of Mandela’s film ‘long walk to freedom’ in the knowledge that he is still a prisoner today and they are milking every way to make money out of his life. Where is the freedom in a specially built ICU unit in Houghton with doctors and nurses , the same ones who nursed him in hospital, 24 hours a day. Many of my friends, I am white and they are black, agree that only his body and machines is not a life. Is it because of the elections in April 2014. Many ANC will leave as they are loyal to Mandela. Our country is being raped and nothing is done. The State President stated that in Gauteng we are not Africans. Are they all crazy or are they trying to drive us crazy. I live in harmony with the black people around me. They come to me for advice and I help to care for their little ones. PLEASE turn off the machines the bodies are back a Qunu the court cases finished. Lets finish with dignity his legacy of freedom.

  35. joan November 15, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    may his soul rest in peace.

  36. Rudi Jansen November 15, 2013 at 6:14 am

    Everyone must die let him go

    • faithfulnesss November 17, 2013 at 2:01 pm

      waaat? not everyone will die Rudi…

  37. Ian November 15, 2013 at 5:06 am

    Deon, your are obviously a total and utter doos (illiterate too). What is riddins? Knobhead

    • Willem November 27, 2013 at 12:22 pm

      another dumb ‘boerseun’! :)…no wonder him and some of his kind are being murdered/thinned out…good riddance I say!…better get your gun and your bible ready Dean, make your last stand! hehe

  38. dollz November 15, 2013 at 4:49 am

    ANC terrorists??? for a news paper you do need to get your facts rights,this one statement made me question all that you have written?at what point do people who are fighting for their right to freedom become terrorists?dont be ignorant and stupid.

    • Graham Noble November 15, 2013 at 7:19 am

      When you kill unarmed people in order to coerce a government to change its policies, you are – by definition – a terrorist; regardless of whether or not you, personally, condone the tactic or oppose that government.

      It is you who needs to get your facts straight.

    • Innocent Mahlangu November 17, 2013 at 7:22 am

      When you watch the upcoming film, Mandela, you will see that the ANC resorted to planting bombs and killing hundreds of innocent people. Doesn’t that sound like terrorists to you?

    • Arnold December 6, 2013 at 10:25 pm

      Dus, volgens jou argument, het die “Boeremag” ook daardie reg ????

  39. Bev November 15, 2013 at 3:57 am

    Bolekwa, you should get your facts straight. When exactly did Nelson Mandela “blow up innocent people”

  40. Willem November 15, 2013 at 3:44 am

    If it was not for the Afrikaner Nationalists (read Nazi/National Socialist) and their hated policies (rightly so), Mandela would not have had to resort to whatever he resorted to…I am a white South African and was a member of the ANC while the organization was in exile/banned…some people (mainly white ones!) still can’t get it through their thick skulls how despicable and indeed murderous the apartheid regime was…if it was not for Mandela and his good graces after 94, so many more white racists would not be with us today!

    • Yo November 15, 2013 at 5:08 am

      Ah Willem! What a shame that you are still living in the past. Move on. Some people (including white ones) are trying to make this world a better one. Be one of them without trying to be ‘one of THEM’. If you don’t get any of that, research ‘thick skull’

      • Willem November 27, 2013 at 12:13 pm

        really, by holding onto land , privileges and wealth that was either stolen from the majority of fellow South Africans (not that ‘they’ were regarded as such!) or obtained with the help of the laws of the apartheid regime…most whites (including you from what I can gather) have ever acknowledged and/or even regretted the crimes committed in their name…it’s like telling the Germans that the holocaust never really happened and was not all that bad…you will be surprised how well informed the German public is as to how hateful the Nazi’s (very much like the Afrikaner Nationalists) were and that asking forgiveness might just help towards some kind of restitution…until today the German government pays certain compensation to the victims (of the holocaust) and their family members…and by the way, I’m only ‘getting on my high horse’ because of the hateful (until today!) comments about the demise of Mandela

    • Wes November 18, 2013 at 11:29 pm

      So Willem, no credit is given to the white public who voted to end apartheid in the referendum?

      You place people in boxes, and that is just stupid. Stop stereotyping. There are stupid racists everywhere, all around the world, regardless of skin colour.

      • Willem November 27, 2013 at 11:56 am

        those racist whites never voted to end apartheid…the question that was posed, was “do you agree that we (the Nationalist pigs) negotiate with the ANC”…the whites who supported the system (a crime against humanity if you ask me) until today make no apology for their crimes!…and no proper restitution has ever been made, such as proper land distribution and wealth!

    • rosemary November 30, 2013 at 1:43 am

      Willem go and look on the outlying farms at the amount of people being killed with pangas, by ANC cadres The rape of a six week old baby by her uncle, black on black. The 2 year old and her cousin of 3 raped and murdered. In SA we are having 16 days of activism against rape of women and children. I think it is safe to say they(you) or what you represent are out of control. Stop living in the past. My husband was saved from certain death by a black man in the mine. When he said let me go I am paralyzed the worker said NO you are my Mlungu(white man) you speak for yourself. The whites guns have been taken away and now the black criminals kill with those guns. Innocent people. I am non racialist but cannot condone the killing of children and the aged, what ever color. They are despicable and murderous(your words) and yes not all are ANC. Yes beneath my white skin my blood boils at what the same color are doing to their own. Are you still proud to be a member of the ANC when they pillage and kill?

  41. Yummm November 15, 2013 at 1:48 am

    I have to agree with this article,i also suspected that something was amiss when the family left Pretoria and went to gather at his homestead in Qunu…Now being Xhosa,i know for a fact that when there was a sick member in the family and everyone is made to go to the main home(usually grandparents house/the person’s home) instead of the hospital as per the usual routine then the person is no more…The family would have never left the Houghton house and decide to go have a meeting all the way in Eastern Cape,leaving a dying man all alone in a hospital if it was just a meeting.People just need to make peace with his death and move in…As for the ANC,I really am not surprised though.They’re still hiding this just so they can get votes from the elderly(who still believe they’re voting for Mandela)in the next elections…How I wish these news could reach the elderly so we can get rid of this good for nothing ANC


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