Pokémon Plus and Pokémon Minus Rumor True?

Pokemon Plus Pokemon Minus

A site called Dual Pixels has posted a rumor stating that the next Pokémon games to be released will be called Pokémon Plus and Pokémon Minus.  This information, they say, comes from a source named “Geno” who previously leaked information about other games, such as Castlevania:  Mirrors of Fate and the Kingdom Hearts HD Remix, as well as information about the E3, an annual trade fair for the computer and video games industry.

Dual Pixels does make the admission that not all of Geno’s rumors have been proven true, but they add that a large number of key predictions have been accurate.  The site also notes that just because a rumor doesn’t become reality, this doesn’t mean it is false.  The nature of the gaming industry is such that game plans could change, they point out.

The site also states that there will be more updates on the current rumor from this same source, but the following is some of the information that they have been given so far:

  • The two new Generation VII games have been given the codenames Pokémon Plus and Pokémon Minus, but these could be the final names as well.
  • The theme for the games will be “Old Tradition vs. New Exploration.”
  • The new games could be made for the Wii U.
  • GameFreak, which was one of the first development studies within Nintendo to get Alpha-Prototype hardware, has now been upgraded to Beta-Prototype.  The “Pokken Fighters” render that went out as a teaser was running Alpha-Prototype hardware, but the new Beta-Prototype hardware will have advance cell shading, giving it a very detailed “living anime” appearance.
  • The new battle system has been completely redone and made simpler.
  • More traditional  gameplay will occur on the Handheld controller, while there will be a new aspect to gameplay on the Terminal unit.
  • The new as-yet-unnamed region is based upon Southeast Asia and may have a large peninsula and many islands.  It currently has a few areas mapped out, but there is a lot of concept art which is being shuttled back and forth.  Routes between islands will be connected by water bridges and underwater tunnels.  In keeping with the Southeast Asia theme, there will be a “Stone Slowking” statue which is a parody of the Reclining Buddha at Wat Pho, Thailand.
  • GameFreak is trying out many new ideas that they’ve been holding onto for awhile.
  • The three new starter pokémon have not yet been named, but they include the following: a Water type that evolves into Water/Steel and is a teardrop-shaped humanoid with a jar on its head which gets filled and grows as it evolves, necessitating another set of arms to hold it; a fire type which evolves into Fire/Fairy that is a tiny goat with fire escaping from its horns who eventually develops a look like a cross between a ram and a hot rod as it reaches its final evolution; a Grass type who evolves into Grass/Electric and goes from being in the form of a face with a root-like body to an electrical palm tree with multiple flower-petal faces.
  • The main legendary pokémon in Pokémon Plus will be a Psychic/Ground type with multiple faces who looks somewhat similar to a Shi Foo Lion.  The main legendary for Pokémon Minus will be a Ghost/Fairy type that has two dashes for eyes and many hurricane-like arms.
  • Many pokémon from the Hoenn and Sinnoh regions will make an appearance.
  • There will be a new type of pokémon that are similar to shinies.  There were no other details given about this new type by the source, other than that they will “change the game significantly.”
  • The new villains have been described as being like “Sohei Zealots” who have learned that the player’s best friend is a reincarnation of a type of person with special abilities–such as creating mega evolutions without using a mega ring–who is only reincarnated every 100 years.  They believe in an old system where people are assigned a pokémon egg and stay with that pokémon for their rest of their lives.  Under this system, the person’s role in society is controlled by the function of the pokémon.  They do not agree with the modern system where pokémon trainers capture multiple pokémon.  Because of this clash between their beliefs and the modern way, they are going on a journey to ask the legendaries to return things to the way they once were.  They will keep the player away from their friend, saying that he only loves pokémon and not humans.  It will eventually be revealed that the friend must die to wake up the legendaries.
  • There are a variety of Pokémon Gyms, including one that has a mail system that uses flying type pokémon and focuses primarily on sky battles.  Another uses only baby pokémon and yet another uses Ghost and Dark pokémon.  One Gym will have a military-style leader who uses Fire and Steel types.
  • The gameplay with Gym Leaders and the Elite Four can be played entirely on the Handheld and can be blown up on the Terminal for home play.
  • The “Mainland” is an MMO-like environment that is only available on the Terminal.  It is shared by both versions.  Players worldwide can chat, trade, mingle and experience updated story lines in this area.
  • Pokémon Band is an experience which is intended to give people who do not battle an opportunity to interact together by having their pokémon dance and make music in order to achieve a high group score.
  • The Mainland and Handheld areas of the game will have actual Pokémon Banks where people can import pokémon from Pokémon X and Pokémon Y.

Although Dual Pixel’s source appears to have supplied a lot of convincing details about future plans for a new generation of games called Pokémon Plus and Pokémon Minus, it is unclear at this point just how true this rumor is.  Whatever the case may be, it has given hungry Pokémon fans food for thought as they anticipate where the games series might venture to next.

By Nancy Schimelpfening


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20 Responses to "Pokémon Plus and Pokémon Minus Rumor True?"

  1. SAVE_US_Y2J   July 21, 2014 at 7:39 am

    thats stupid…. what if you dont have a WII U

  2. Kevin McKeaige   April 7, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    I hope there is a pokemon game for the nintendo Wii U system. I like to play Pokemon on my Wii U

  3. Butt   March 14, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    You said “tarter”

  4. kinglee   January 24, 2014 at 12:37 am

    I hear that minus is for the handheld and plus is for wii u so I wouldn’t mind it at all

  5. Steven   January 23, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    If it’s on WII U , I guess i won’t be playing the new game.

  6. Jon   January 21, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    I have my doubts about these rumors. A Wii U Pokemon game? That would totally undermine the whole point of Pokemon games: interact with other players to battle and trade. The reason they’re on hand-helds is because you can battle and trade with others easily, much more easily than you could with a home console. Maybe they could to a Animal Crossing: New Leaf plaza-like thing, where players could interact on the Wii U, but the entire game? No, definitely not. Also, the whole “the player’s best friend will have to die” thing is way to dark for Pokemon, which has always been kid-friendly. While I could see dual-type Gyms, and maybe a Baby Pokemon Gym as the first Gym, I can’t see a Gym specializing in Sky Battles. The pool of Pokemon that can participate in Sky Battles is so small, a Sky Battle Gym is out of the question. There’s a reason why there are so few Sky Battles in Pokemon X and Y, and why none of them are required battles.
    Redoing the battle system? What could be redone about the battle system? It’s already pretty simple, and I don’t see how they could make it any more simple without making it too simple. I wouldn’t mind seeing another Pokemon Colosseum or XD Gale of Darkness type of game, but not a main-series Pokemon game.

  7. Nothing   January 20, 2014 at 3:27 am

    Mike, I agree that the prophecy is serious, but it’s not really complicated. It seems like the sort of stuff that went on between Ghetsis and N (and the stuff between them does seem complicated too), which means that if this game really is real, then the game is probably going to explain everything slowly.

  8. Nunu   January 20, 2014 at 2:14 am

    I don’t understand the concept of making the battle more simple and clean. I mean what other way can the battle be fought :/

  9. Jason Purcell   January 15, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    There could be a multiplayer and single player mode.

  10. Xopha   January 14, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    seems like someone saw Volcanion and Hoopa and jumped the asian gun

  11. Barley   January 9, 2014 at 2:36 am

    Some of this sounds totally fake; Your friend having to die, a starter pokemon with a Fairy type(please, no), the starters themselves sound nothing at all like pokemon!

    But my take on the Wii U terminal MMO thing was, since it is stated to be terminal only, that the ‘MMO’ function is really just a suped up GTS/Global link that you access similar to the plaza for Animal Crossing(but way better) and the main game is on all the islands, which is the handheld part referred to.

    Which could conceivably happen.

    People still walk around and make friends as Nintendo wants them to(or claims they do) but there is a Wifi Club style joint space for when you’re not going out but want to play, as well.

    Sadly, legendary designs are so iffy that these could very well end up happening..

    And if the claims of wanting to shake things up and try new stuff they’ve been meaning to for ages are true, I see no reason why we couldn’t have Baby Gyms or Dual-Type Gyms — About time if you ask me! Mono-Type Gyms are too easy!

    That being said, the point made about trademarking is a very valid one. I’ll remain cautiously hopeful but not cautiously optimistic. There’s just too much reason to believe it all to be fake at the moment.

  12. jomarcenter   January 9, 2014 at 1:00 am

    The Wii U thing is fake, like they say they tested Pokemon X and Y on a Wii U system (which is true) But they didn’t release it for the Wii U since the purpose for Pokemon by the developers is to make real world friend, Better communication with the world and to bring people closer by playing it. That why it was stuck to the handheld consoles.

  13. Diego   January 8, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    I know people probably think that this is fake because of how different it is from past games, but it does say that GameFreak is trying new ideas. I hope this is true because it makes these games actually feel new without being completely foreign. Everyone has been saying that Pokemon games have been getting repetitive, and this sounds like it will shake it up in a positive way. And if the Wii U is part of the game, it will actually give me a reason to get one.

    • Chris Hale   January 13, 2014 at 9:48 pm

      This is a bad idea if you ask me, it’s like reaching for the stars, and getting way too close, thus getting burned. It strays way too far from tradition contrary to the “Theme of the games”.

  14. leo alcantara   January 7, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    So if the wii U part is true, then the only way to battle with someone is to have internet? This is absolutely ridiculous! The reason why previous games are for handheld devices is so people with no internet access go to their friends so they can battle through a cable wire or infrared. This is completely horrible!

  15. Nate Randall   January 7, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    The ‘MMO’ part actually debunks the entire rumor. Game Freak and Nintendo have stated officially that they will never partake in any MMO project because of the laws that prohibits players 13 and under to play (half of the player base). There is also no trademark on ‘Pokemon Plus’ or ‘Pokemon Minus’. Games are always trademarked very early in development; earlier than half of what is posted would be conceptualized.

    • Chris Hale   January 13, 2014 at 9:50 pm

      Thank you, just… thank you for that.

  16. Casper   January 7, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    I agree completely with Mike.

  17. Chris Fleming   January 7, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    It’s… It’s BEAUTIFUL.

  18. Mike   January 7, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    There is no way this is true. First off, main series pokemon games have always been on handhelds because it appeals to gamers who want to casually play wherever and whenever they want. Also, it is very unlikely that as tarter pokemon will be made with multiple faces, because the starters are supposed to be relatable and welcoming to players. The player is alienated by pokemon with multiple faces and most people won’t pick it. Anyways, that pokemon just sounds like an electric version of exeggutor. Furthermore, gym leaders will not start specializing in random thins such as baby pokemon or two types at once. The final part of this that really made this seem absolutely fake was the fact that a plot point involves some sort of great prophecy that makes the player having to save his best friends life, which is too serious and complicated for the pokemon series. To me, this just sounds like a rom hack that someone thought of.


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